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Unread Tuesday, Jun 12th 2012, 06:55 AM #1 The New Stars in Vegas: D.J.’s and Dance Music
LAS VEGAS — Steve Wynn, the 70-year-old casino magnate, stood before an invitation-only crowd at the opening of a Japanese restaurant here last week, promising good food and even better music.

He started to explain — “for those of you who are not exactly with it, like me, Afrojack is the coolest D.J.”— but it was unnecessary, as a phalanx of models in little black dresses rushed to a corner booth to watch the music man at work. Only the arrival of Paris Hilton drew them away.

After years on the margins, the blaring, pulsating sound of electronic dance music is ascendant, and Las Vegas has embraced the trend the only way it knows how: by going all in. Casino nightclubs that a few years ago were devoted to hip-hop now compete to sign dance acts to million-dollar contracts, and they market these once invisible musicians as superstars. Along the Las Vegas Strip, billboards advertise top D.J.’s like Tiësto and Steve Aoki, alongside David Copperfield and Cirque du Soleil.

“Las Vegas is the new Ibiza,” said Patrick Moxey, the founder of Ultra Records, a leading independent dance label, referring to the hedonistic dance mecca in Spain. Ultra recently started a joint record label with Wynn’s clubs that will make compilation albums and push the music to hotel guests.

Over the weekend the city was also host to the Electric Daisy Carnival, the largest festival of electronic dance music, or E.D.M., in North America. From Friday to Sunday, more than 300,000 fans — recognizable by their butterfly wings and Day-Glo tutus — descended on the Las Vegas Motor Speedway to see Avicii, Calvin Harris, David Guetta and dozens of other acts.

At the same time, artists and music executives gathered for the related EDMbiz conference here last week, debating whether the city can be a test case for the wider appeal of a genre that in the past has stumbled on its way from subculture to mainstream. They also questioned the long-term commitment of a city known for chasing the winds of pop culture.

“Vegas is a reflection of what’s hot, not the driver of what’s to come,” said Marc Geiger, the head of music at the agency WME.

As musicians and promoters tell it, D.J.’s have always been part of Las Vegas night life, but only in the past few years have they earned headline billing and been allowed to play anything more adventurous than Top 40 hits and crowd-pleasing mash-ups.

“I used to consider Las Vegas the most musically ignorant place in the world,” said Mr. Aoki, who spins monthly at Wynn’s Surrender and XS clubs, and is known for antics like leaping onto an inflatable raft in the crowd. “Now it’s completely flipped,” he continued. “People coming into the clubs, they have been educated. They’re aware of the music of that D.J. before they step into the club.”

A turning point came last year when XS celebrated its second anniversary with Deadmau5, who performs in vaudevillian headgear. Held on a Monday night, which usually draws about 3,000 people, the event had 7,500 attendees — “Saturday night numbers,” said Jesse Waits, the club’s managing partner. Mr. Wynn, intrigued, invited Deadmau5 to his villa, and the two became friends.

Loud music to keep people of any nationality dancing all night would seem a perfect fit for a party capital like Las Vegas. But promoters like Jonathan Shecter, the director of original programming at Wynn’s clubs, say it took the combination of several factors for the sound to take hold.

“There’s been a convergence happening,” Mr. Shecter said. “Between the organic growth of E.D.M., the importance of live shows as a way for artists to make money and connect with the public, and the rise of Las Vegas as a nightclub culture — all those things are happening at the same time.”

The city’s huge “superclubs,” most of them attached to casinos along the Strip, are now banking almost entirely on dance music.

According to Nightclub & Bar, a trade publication, 8 of the Top 10 nightclubs in the country are in Las Vegas, with Marquee leading the list, at $70 million to $80 million in annual revenue. That 60,000-square-foot club put in a $3 million sound system and added a D.J. booth that becomes a “drawbridge” over the crowd, said Jason Strauss, a partner in the TAO Group, which manages the club.

Wynn’s four nightclubs have signed 34 D.J.’s to exclusive residencies, and the hotel’s deal with Ultra will involve online video from the clubs, albums released under the name Ultra/Wynn, and even a hotel TV channel. Throughout its casino, Wynn promotes Ultra acts on stanchions and sells Deadmau5 merchandise like T-shirts, CDs and “mau5 ears.”

Last week dance music seemed to be everywhere in Las Vegas. With Electric Daisy Carnival in town, the nightclubs had packed lineups both late at night and at their daytime pool parties, which allow promoters to keep shows going almost any time of day.

The influx to Electric Daisy in its second year here snarled city traffic. On Friday night the 15-mile trip to the speedway took up to three hours, leading to the surreal scene of ravers leaving their vehicles and walking along the dark desert highway in full costume. Heavy winds shut down the festival early on Saturday, but otherwise it seems to have gone on without major incident.

For the music industry, the value of the Vegas E.D.M. explosion is unclear. It has introduced a valuable promotional outlet, and the casinos’ marketing dollars have helped turn faceless D.J.’s into stars who are mobbed for photos at the airport and in hotel lobbies.

“While it’s harder to pinpoint a record breaking out of Las Vegas, what you can count on is an incredible amount of audience exposure there,” said Craig Kallman, the chairman of Atlantic Records. “It’s become a very key promotional destination for new music.”

At the EDMbiz conference, executives discussed the effect of the changes, including escalating artist fees, the dangers of hype and corporate involvement in a historically independent enterprise, like the media executive Robert F. X. Sillerman’s recent announcement of a plan to spend $1 billion on dance companies.

Mr. Geiger of WME, who was a founder of the Lollapalooza tour in the early 1990s, compared dance music’s current moment to the sudden popularity of alternative music at that time. He also warned agents to protect their acts from a bursting bubble or, worse, a repeat of the ’90s, when record labels tried to duplicate the appeal of Nirvana and Pearl Jam with a flood of inferior acts.

“In our business we are planning for what we might call a market correction,” Mr. Geiger said in an interview before the conference. “Not a crash, but a correction. It’s hard for any wave, no matter what it is, to sustain at its high point.”

There is also an inherent danger in one of Las Vegas’s defining characteristics: its fickleness and adaptability to trends. As some executives at EDMbiz noted, if Las Vegas is dance music’s strongest promotional platform, what happens to the genre if the tourist crowds start to crave something else?

As Sean Christie, the managing partner of both Surrender and Encore Beach Club, noted in an interview at a restaurant a stone’s throw from the gambling floor and his clubs, that is always a possibility, but for now the dance beat rules.

“If the crowd wanted country music, country music I would give them,” Mr. Christie said. “But the crowd wants this music now, so this is what we give them.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/ar...pagewanted=all

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Unread Tuesday, Jun 12th 2012, 08:20 AM #2
confirmed. just got home last night.

saw tonylee, trinity27 and starstuff on this trip.
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Unread Tuesday, Jun 12th 2012, 08:48 AM #3
really? b/c hmmm..

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Kicked off the decks at Tryst in Vegas tonight for not playing Carly Rae Jepsen + hip hop


and then this...

http://www.5chicago.com/features/jun...gas/index.html
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Unread Tuesday, Jun 12th 2012, 10:07 AM #4
Thats sort of a tough spot for the casino. I mean they did bookt the guy and frankly really should have known better. But if Arab Sheikh, who in all likelihood is both the biggest spender in the club that night and one of the few 'regular' customers of the casino (and I don't mean 'once a year') in the room, its hard to blame them for catering to him.
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one thing about Las Vegas that won't ever change: money talks, bullshit walks. how to reconcile that with "underground" music being booked is a mystery. discerning ears don't have more sway than big bankrolls in LV, and that's not open to negotiation.

where else on earth would an afterhours featuring Richie Hawtin have a $50 price tag at the door + a doorman openly soliciting bribes to beat the line? and where else would the same party feature a crowd 50%+ of whom have never heard of the main act?

btw Sasha's stay at Drai's on Friday night ended in a way that naughtybooth.com collectively would have found hilarious.

i had a good time but Vegas gonna Vegas.
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“I used to consider Las Vegas the most musically ignorant place in the world,” said Mr. Aoki, who spins monthly at Wynn’s Surrender and XS clubs, and is known for antics like leaping onto an inflatable raft in the crowd. “Now it’s completely flipped,” he continued. “People coming into the clubs, they have been educated. They’re aware of the music of that D.J. before they step into the club.”

A turning point came last year when XS celebrated its second anniversary with Deadmau5, who performs in vaudevillian headgear. Held on a Monday night, which usually draws about 3,000 people, the event had 7,500 attendees — “Saturday night numbers,” said Jesse Waits, the club’s managing partner. Mr. Wynn, intrigued, invited Deadmau5 to his villa, and the two became friends.


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Unread Tuesday, Jun 12th 2012, 11:03 AM #7
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i had a good time but Vegas gonna Vegas.
Mr. Moxey disagres:

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Did they edit out "said Patrick Moxey, who appeared to be quite high at the time of the interview"?
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Mr. Moxey disagres:
not quite.

maybe the part of Ibiza where all the English dudes go to hooligan it up? San Antonio?

no, that doesn't really work either...

some things are similar: big name DJs, packed clubs and a lot of money being poured into said clubs from all angles.
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Unread Tuesday, Jun 12th 2012, 11:39 AM #9
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confirmed. just got home last night.

saw tonylee, trinity27 and starstuff on this trip.
Should have gotten in touch with you. Was in town for a short stay at PH. Kicked it at MGM pool during the day which blew me away (I'm easy to please). EDC was absolutely bonkers. When it got shut down on Saturday due to high winds, candy ravers were taking over hotel lobbies everywhere at 4am. Definitely going back for Labor Day.


Was too fucking bent to remember to take photos, but my buddy captured this on Sunday (and these girls were the tamest there... in fact, less clothes at EDC than at the pool if that's possible)...

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candy ravers were taking over everywhere
fixed.

half naked young girls everywhere. really everywhere.

if you're ever in LV during June/July again let me know. good chance i'm lurking somewhere.

forgot to add Scarlette and Frank Rempe to my list of board peeps I saw.
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Was too fucking bent to remember to take photos, but my buddy captured this on Sunday (and these girls were the tamest there... in fact, less clothes at EDC than at the pool if that's possible)...

Does MDC know the one on our left stole her boots?
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one thing about Las Vegas that won't ever change: money talks, bullshit walks. how to reconcile that with "underground" music being booked is a mystery. discerning ears don't have more sway than big bankrolls in LV, and that's not open to negotiation.

where else on earth would an afterhours featuring Richie Hawtin have a $50 price tag at the door + a doorman openly soliciting bribes to beat the line? and where else would the same party feature a crowd 50%+ of whom have never heard of the main act?

btw Sasha's stay at Drai's on Friday night ended in a way that naughtybooth.com collectively would have found hilarious.
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I'm gonna try to make it out there, but my weekends are booked solid through July. Good friend of mine lives out there half the year trying to do what you do on a more professional level and not be down 20k at a time while struggling to make it back in a few days.

Also, I'm now officially a part of the chemical generation. God damn that molly shit is good. How we didn't get kicked out of Aria when my friend told the pit boss he was on it is beyond me. Guess as long as you're willing to give the casino your money, it's all good.


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fixed.

half naked young girls everywhere. really everywhere.

if you're ever in LV during June/July again let me know. good chance i'm lurking somewhere.

forgot to add Scarlette and Frank Rempe to my list of board peeps I saw.
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not gonna tell but let's just say that he did not receive the superstar DJ treatment after his set was over.
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How we didn't get kicked out of Aria when my friend told the pit boss he was on it is beyond me. Guess as long as you're willing to give the casino your money, it's all good.
i'm pretty sure the entire city was on collective notice to expect and accept that sort of behavior this past weekend.

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i'm pretty sure the entire city was on collective notice to expect and accept that sort of behavior this past weekend.

shitshow deluxe!
So Labor Day is booked. May need to call on your celebrity status for some hookups. Hopefully, you'll be celebrating a bigtime WSOP win by then and wiping your ass with $100 bills.
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not gonna tell but let's just say that he did not receive the superstar DJ treatment after his set was over.
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not gonna tell but let's just say that he did not receive the superstar DJ treatment after his set was over.

My curiosity is off the scale, I really want to know what happened here.
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...where else on earth would an afterhours featuring Richie Hawtin have a $50 price tag at the door + a doorman openly soliciting bribes to beat the line? and where else would the same party feature a crowd 50%+ of whom have never heard of the main act?

btw Sasha's stay at Drai's on Friday night ended in a way that naughtybooth.com collectively would have found hilarious.
No word on Sasha's demise ("adult contemporary progressive house" ), but it seems like Hawtin's gig was the real deal, or as real as Vegas can be, anyway:

http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/news/2...s-early-drais/
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No word on Sasha's demise ("adult contemporary progressive house" ), but it seems like Hawtin's gig was the real deal, or as real as Vegas can be, anyway:

http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/news/2...s-early-drais/
"People say he is the most boring DJ in existence."
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"People say he is the most boring DJ in existence."
No that would be Nick Warren.

Sasha wasn't that boring, that being said that the last time I saw him was in Sydney in 1997.
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"People say he is the most boring DJ in existence."
between this and the "adult contemporary" comment, I almost feel vindicated for never having liked Sasha. Snoozefest DJ with a strange cult following. IDGI
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between this and the "adult contemporary" comment, I almost feel vindicated for never having liked Sasha. Snoozefest DJ with a strange cult following. IDGI
crazy talk. sounds like you never experienced 530 w27th.

also, gu san fran is untouchable.
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sounds like you never experienced 530 w27th
HUGE mistake. Sleep No More is beyond awesome.
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HUGE mistake. Sleep No More is beyond awesome.
addendum: ...experienced 530 w27th circa 1996-2001.
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Las Vegas is the best place to visit, if you like speed. fun loving casino pub and much more then its really very good place.
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HUGE mistake. Sleep No More is beyond awesome.
well now that nobody's around to get on my case about it (in all the years this was the one fight i did not want to get into here or on facebook)

what an overrated, exhausting snoozefest of a 3 hours sleep no more is, and yet we have countless yutzes who wouldn't know shakespeare from cantaloupes going again and again to this thing talking about how 'it's changed their life' what boring, empty lives they must lead

you couldn't pay me enough money to suffer thru another 3 hours of this

and i'm usually the one guy totally immersed in what everybody else thinks doubles as a sleeping aid (see antonioni, michaelangelo, the baseball giants and listening to women)

it doesnt automatically make for an engaging, entertaining show just because you take up a lot of time and effort designing a beautiful set

somebody also needs to tell these assholes to turn the ac on
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well now that nobody's around to get on my case about it (in all the years this was the one fight i did not want to get into here or on facebook)

what an overrated, exhausting snoozefest of a 3 hours sleep no more is, and yet we have countless yutzes who wouldn't know shakespeare from cantaloupes going again and again to this thing talking about how 'it's changed their life' what boring, empty lives they must lead

you couldn't pay me enough money to suffer thru another 3 hours of this

and i'm usually the one guy totally immersed in what everybody else thinks doubles as a sleeping aid (see antonioni, michaelangelo, the baseball giants and listening to women)

it doesnt automatically make for an engaging, entertaining show just because you take up a lot of time and effort designing a beautiful set

somebody also needs to tell these assholes to turn the ac on
vdc's still got it!




(oh, and I've read more Shakespeare than 99.8% of the country, I would guess)
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(oh, and I've read more Shakespeare than 99.8% of the country, I would guess)

you're one of the 'sleep no more changed my life' crowd???? come on
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you're one of the 'sleep no more changed my life' crowd???? come on
Changed my life? Definitely not (that would be King of Kong). But I loved it, thought it was smart, interesting and cooler than Fonzie. And I did go twice, and enjoyed it, and had differing experiences, both times.
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